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Post by Defiant1 on Mar 9, 2009 22:30:16 GMT -5
I actually read this guy's stuff and pretty much liked it. I won't say it opened doors to new horizons in the comics industry, but it kept me interested in what he was going to write about from month to month. Spank! The Monkey #1  Defiant1 |
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Post by Defiant1 on Jan 1, 2013 22:38:01 GMT -5
Reposting this. I'd forgotten that it's a flipbook. It only has one indicia, but here is the back cover. Spank the Monkey #1 (flipbook w/Korvus #0)  Defiant1 |
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Post by Brother J on Jan 2, 2013 1:32:33 GMT -5
I did an Arrow Comics checklist over at the Valiantfans site, so I'm familiar with these books. The later Arrow stuff doesn't really interest me like the early stuff does, but I listed it in my checklist to be complete. Not sure if you have any interest, but I will copy and paste it from over there to this thread.
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Post by Brother J on Jan 2, 2013 1:34:42 GMT -5
I'm getting very interested in Arrow Comics with my reading of The Realm. The company did a great job of hyping their books and creating a "company feel", enough that I've been thinking I would try to put a set together. Here's my attempt at a list. First is the original Arrow Comics from the 80's, the company was revived a few times, but my interest is in the original Arrow.
Deadworld: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 (Graphic), 5 (Tame), 6 (Graphic), 6 (Tame), 7 (Graphic), 7 (Tame), 8 (Graphic), 8 (Tame), 9 (Graphic), 9 (Tame)
Fantastic Fanzine Vol. 1: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 14 (no #13 published)
Fantastic Fanzine Vol. 2: 1
Legend Lore: Tales from the Realm: 1, 2
Night Streets: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Realm, The: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, Book 1 (TPB, reprints 1-4)
System 7: 1, 2, 3
Tales from the Aniverse: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
Deadworld and the Realm continued with Caliber using the same numbering. Realm #13 was published by Wee Bee Comics, then went to Caliber for #14. Wee Bee was a company started up by the creator of Tales from the Aniverse. They also published The Aniverse #1 and #2 and a Deadworld Trade Paperback, reprinting Deadworld #1-7.
Next would be the books after the company was revived. I don't currently have interest in these, which I why I want to list them separately, but they are connected, so for completeness sake, I figured I would list them.
Arrow Anthology: 1, 2, 3, 4
Arrow Preview: 1
Arrow Spotlight: 1
August: 1, 2
Bill Bryan's Oz Collection: 1
Butterfly Gunn: 1 (manga)
Camelot's Last Knight Camlann: 1
Dark Oz: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Dead, The: 1, 1 (Graphic), 2, 2 (Graphic)
Dead, The Vol. 2: 1, 2, 3
Descendants of Toshin: 1
Dr. Goyle Special: 1
Fantastic Fanzine Vol. 3: 1, 2, 3
Fantastic Fanzine Vol. 4: 1
Korvus: 0, 1, 2, 3
Land of Oz, The: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9
Miss Chevious: The Armageddon Project: 1, 2
Semantic Lace: 1, 2 (manga)
Shock and Spank: The Monkeyboys Special: 1
Spank the Monkey: 1
Spank the Monkey On the Comic Market: 1, 2, 3
War of the Worlds: Haven and the Hellweed (Graphic Novel)
War of the Worlds: The Memphis Front: 1, 1 (Special Edition), 2
Wogglebug Special: 1
Wonderland: 1, 2, 3
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Post by Defiant1 on Jan 2, 2013 7:52:40 GMT -5
Your list may be incomplete.
Owosso Taco House Funnies (#1) is listed a few places.
You can take "Shock and Spank: The Monkeyboys Special: 1 " off the list. It was published by CFD which was Joe Monks company. It might deserve an honorable mention, but I'm guessing you'd have to give all of the Caliber series like "War of the Worlds" an honorable mention also.
Korvus #0 really doesn't have an indicia if it's the book I own. It's a flip cover to Spank the Money #1. I haven't located any higher issue numbers, but they appear to have flip covers also.
I have a System 7 comic from Sirius waiting to be scanned.
I'm interested but not from a collecting standpoint. I kinda admire the tone and attitude of Randy Zimmerman. I was seeing his name on a lot of the stuff I've been scanning lately. I kinda like his work. Stuff like Korvus #0 does not interest me at all. The older stuff may be more interesting, but it's not something that would excite me to own at this point. You liking the Realm is probably like me liking Hudnall's Harsh Realm. It doesn't matter how much you tell people, you'll probably hear "Oh! Okay." as a response.
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Post by Brother J on Jan 2, 2013 12:41:34 GMT -5
Thanks for the info, I provided this information on the Valiantfans board, not sure that anyone cares, but I like to be as accurate as I can. In my defense, the Owosso Taco House Funnies book is not in the inventories of either Mile High Comics or Lone Star, my two main sources for putting together lists. Strange that neither company would have this book.
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Post by Defiant1 on Jan 2, 2013 14:42:50 GMT -5
Thanks for the info, I provided this information on the Valiantfans board, not sure that anyone cares, but I like to be as accurate as I can. In my defense, the Owosso Taco House Funnies book is not in the inventories of either Mile High Comics or Lone Star, my two main sources for putting together lists. Strange that neither company would have this book. It's possible it was solicited and never came out, but one of the reference sites does list it. I dug up their old web site in the Internet Archive and the comic cover was pictured. In Randy Zimmerman's oldest rant he was talking about some creators being upset with him because he solicited their title and the orders only rolled in for about 500 copies and he couldn't justify printing it and hoping it might break even on profit one day. He thought the creators would understand, but they were bad mouthing him when they took their comic to another publisher. Defiant1 |
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Post by Defiant1 on Nov 26, 2013 23:48:25 GMT -5
I'm getting very interested in Arrow Comics with my reading of The Realm. The company did a great job of hyping their books and creating a "company feel", enough that I've been thinking I would try to put a set together. Here's my attempt at a list. First is the original Arrow Comics from the 80's, the company was revived a few times, but my interest is in the original Arrow. Deadworld: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 (Graphic), 5 (Tame), 6 (Graphic), 6 (Tame), 7 (Graphic), 7 (Tame), 8 (Graphic), 8 (Tame), 9 (Graphic), 9 (Tame) Fantastic Fanzine Vol. 1: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 14 (no #13 published) Fantastic Fanzine Vol. 2: 1 Legend Lore: Tales from the Realm: 1, 2 Night Streets: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 Realm, The: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, Book 1 (TPB, reprints 1-4) System 7: 1, 2, 3 Tales from the Aniverse: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 Deadworld and the Realm continued with Caliber using the same numbering. Realm #13 was published by Wee Bee Comics, then went to Caliber for #14. Wee Bee was a company started up by the creator of Tales from the Aniverse. They also published The Aniverse #1 and #2 and a Deadworld Trade Paperback, reprinting Deadworld #1-7. Next would be the books after the company was revived. I don't currently have interest in these, which I why I want to list them separately, but they are connected, so for completeness sake, I figured I would list them. Arrow Anthology: 1, 2, 3, 4 Arrow Preview: 1 Arrow Spotlight: 1 August: 1, 2 Bill Bryan's Oz Collection: 1 Butterfly Gunn: 1 (manga) Camelot's Last Knight Camlann: 1 Dark Oz: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 Dead, The: 1, 1 (Graphic), 2, 2 (Graphic) Dead, The Vol. 2: 1, 2, 3 Descendants of Toshin: 1 Dr. Goyle Special: 1 Fantastic Fanzine Vol. 3: 1, 2, 3 Fantastic Fanzine Vol. 4: 1 Korvus: 0, 1, 2, 3 Land of Oz, The: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 Miss Chevious: The Armageddon Project: 1, 2 Semantic Lace: 1, 2 (manga) Shock and Spank: The Monkeyboys Special: 1 Spank the Monkey: 1 Spank the Monkey On the Comic Market: 1, 2, 3 War of the Worlds: Haven and the Hellweed (Graphic Novel) War of the Worlds: The Memphis Front: 1, 1 (Special Edition), 2 Wogglebug Special: 1 Wonderland: 1, 2, 3 It appears that Transfusion collects some of this material in TPB form. Putting it here in case you miss the links in my Caliber thread. transfuzionpublishing.blogspot.com/Defiant1 |
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Post by starseed on Dec 22, 2013 14:08:58 GMT -5
I've got all the Night Streets issues, plus a trade that I think completed the last published arc and may have been published by Caliber. I really like that title.
I've been interested in seeing what the Realm is all about for quite awhile. Hopefully I can free up some funds and put a run of it together so I can read it.
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Post by starseed on Dec 23, 2013 11:42:05 GMT -5
I added up the price a complete 21 issue run of The Realm would cost me to order it via mycomicshop's website. It came to less than 1.50 ea. That makes it extremely difficult for me to spend 2.99 or 3.99 on new comics, when I can get back issues for at least half those prices that I have a lot of interest in.
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Post by Defiant1 on Dec 23, 2013 12:30:28 GMT -5
I added up the price a complete 21 issue run of The Realm would cost me to order it via mycomicshop's website. It came to less than 1.50 ea. That makes it extremely difficult for me to spend 2.99 or 3.99 on new comics, when I can get back issues for at least half those prices that I have a lot of interest in. I agree. I thought Brother J was buying new comics and then I discovered that he's bargain bin shopping after they drop in price. There is nothing so overwhelmingly good that anyone should pay $3.99 for a new comic. I've been trying to figure out if Marvel is producing over 70 titles a month to flood the market and put others out of business, or do it to sustain themselves and/or Diamond to maintain a certain dollar threshold. Diamond's health is critical for the industry to sustain. I honestly believe DC and Marvel are publishing so much in an attempt to save Diamond. Common sense tells you that one Thor title a month would be more profitable than 5 related Thor titles. How many Batman comics do they need a month? Wouldn't it be better to nurture less titles, do them well, and build the value of second tier characters? Everything is so short sighted these days. Defiant1 |
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Post by starseed on Dec 23, 2013 14:20:31 GMT -5
Reading your post, it seems to me things with the comic publishers had grown shortsighted as well right before the crash of the early nineties.
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Post by Defiant1 on Dec 23, 2013 14:34:26 GMT -5
Reading your post, it seems to me things with the comic publishers had grown shortsighted as well right before the crash of the early nineties. The volume in the 90's was clearly to steal market share. It was definitely an attempt to win dollars away from the competitor. Typically in tight financial times a wise company would try to focus on a few key titles and try to maximize sales and profits on each. Somewhere in the mix, both Marvel and Diamond need a certain dollar amount generated to sustain their fixed overhead costs. It may be that their core titles are not generating enough cash to sustain their fixed costs. Years ago I recall a retailer telling me that during the slow months, Diamond was not offering enough product for them to meet their monthly fixed costs. The amount of product must have markup suitable to cover rent/employees/etc. If the volume of product dips too low, It's impossible to cover expenses. This would also be true at Diamond's level and at the publisher level. At the time, the publishers were trying to maximize sales on their hottest products during the convention season when money flows more freely. Defiant1 |
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Post by Brother J on Dec 23, 2013 20:31:50 GMT -5
I added up the price a complete 21 issue run of The Realm would cost me to order it via mycomicshop's website. It came to less than 1.50 ea. That makes it extremely difficult for me to spend 2.99 or 3.99 on new comics, when I can get back issues for at least half those prices that I have a lot of interest in. Arrrgggh, NOW you tell me they have all the Realm issues in stock after I already placed my order. I still need two issues to complete my set, two issues which they didn't have in stock for a long time. Maybe I can throw another small order together. The last order I placed just came in. |
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Post by starseed on Dec 24, 2013 10:14:31 GMT -5
I k ow at least one of those two issues they haven't had in stock also couldn't be found on eBay.
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