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Post by Defiant1 on Jun 14, 2009 16:34:45 GMT -5
Normally I don't post a list "in process", but I'm making an exception because this one may take a long time. eclipsearchive.fateback.com/Eclipse_index.htmlSome letters should be complete, but I'm finding a lot of inconsistent ways that the titles are listed from site to site. I'm making my best guesses. If anyone wants to open their Eclipse comics and see if the title I list matches the indicia exactly, it would be appreciated. One big stumbling block that confused me was the 2-D versions of the 3-D comics. That didn't make any sense to me. I discussed that last weekend with a dealer familiar with comics from that time period. He tells me that Eclipse offered mail-away 2-D versions for people who could not read or see the 3-D graphics. To the best of his knowledge they were limited to only about 500 copies made. Being a mail-away item, the chances of finding one are probably much more difficult. Another road block has been the title "Eclipse Graphic Album Series". It appears that one shot books like "Zorro In Old California" make no reference to being part of the "Eclipse Graphic Album Series", but they were listed as being part of the series in ads. Sorting through some 36 odd listings without a copy of the ads will make it tough to determine which have duplicate listings on the checklist. The dealer I spoke with said that some of the hardcovers may fetch as much as $500 a piece. Obviously I will place a priority on sorting through this title & any info about it while compiling the list. Defiant1
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Post by Brother J on Jun 14, 2009 18:03:23 GMT -5
One big stumbling block that confused me was the 2-D versions of the 3-D comics. That didn't make any sense to me. I discussed that last weekend with a dealer familiar with comics from that time period. He tells me that Eclipse offered mail-away 2-D versions for people who could not read or see the 3-D graphics. To the best of his knowledge they were limited to only about 500 copies made. Being a mail-away item, the chances of finding one are probably much more difficult. I believe these are going to be even a lot more rare than 500 copies. There was a flood at the location of the Eclipse offices, with a large portion of their back issue stock being destroyed. That's part of the reason a book like Miracleman #15 is so hard to come by. The non 3-D version of Miracleman 3-D #1 would fetch a huge premium if a copy ever went up for sale and was listed properly.
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Post by Defiant1 on Jun 14, 2009 18:28:56 GMT -5
One big stumbling block that confused me was the 2-D versions of the 3-D comics. That didn't make any sense to me. I discussed that last weekend with a dealer familiar with comics from that time period. He tells me that Eclipse offered mail-away 2-D versions for people who could not read or see the 3-D graphics. To the best of his knowledge they were limited to only about 500 copies made. Being a mail-away item, the chances of finding one are probably much more difficult. I believe these are going to be even a lot more rare than 500 copies. There was a flood at the location of the Eclipse offices, with a large portion of their back issue stock being destroyed. That's part of the reason a book like Miracleman #15 is so hard to come by. The non 3-D version of Miracleman 3-D #1 would fetch a huge premium if a copy ever went up for sale and was listed properly. I knew about the flood, but I don't know which or how many books were affected. I'll try and dig into articles on that and link them. Defiant1
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Post by Defiant1 on Jun 15, 2009 4:39:22 GMT -5
Hopefully I've completed the "F" section. I broke some trends and listed Foozle #3 separate from Cap'n Quick and a Foozle #1 & #2.
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Post by Defiant1 on Jun 15, 2009 18:51:10 GMT -5
Very odd! I 'm working on the "J" titles for Eclipse and I wasn't seeing the James bond graphic novel I picked up recently either on the CPG site or the Grand Comics Database site. It's clearly titled "James Bond 007: Licence To Kill" on the cover AND the spine. Now here's the funny part to me. According to the dictionary online, the title is spelled incorrectly all through the book and on the movie unless you are using the middle english spelling. Is this how it is spelled in the UK? Normally in the US it would be spelled "License", not "Licence". Regardless, I think the CPG and the Grand Comics database are in error for listing this under "L". There is no actual indicia in this book. Where an indicia would be expected, it has instead a disclaimer about the rights of the "Licence To Kill" title. I think they mistakenly tagged that as the title because it has no true indicia. Therefore, I'm going to list it under the "J's" because that is the title on the spine. The Eclipse website also lists it under the "J's". And, to make things worse, only the Grand Comics database spells the title like it is supposed to be spelled with a "c" in "Licence" instead of an "s". Defiant1
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Post by Defiant1 on Jun 15, 2009 20:35:54 GMT -5
I worked on getting up through "K". This company is a mess. I'll have to finalize the formatting after ALL the info has been typed in.
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Post by VaultKeeper on Jun 16, 2009 9:57:30 GMT -5
Sometimes I cross-reference Mile High, just to see what they have listed. They list the GN under "J" (with the 'C' spelling), and include a listing for the Hardcover version:
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Post by gowaltrip on Jun 16, 2009 10:12:57 GMT -5
Although I cannot think of any other book quickly off the top of my head, I would agree that J is the proper listing for this book. When books have similar 2 titles to go by, often people overlook the first name and go by the title they are used to or associate with when they see the book. It's obvious it's a James Bond book, but it's going to be remembered more as a Licence to Kill product. Funny thing about the C in Licence. I would imagine you are correct with the UK interpretation.
In any event, the 1st place I would have went to is the indicia and whatever is listed there, would have clarified the title for me. But since you say it is not listed, I would agree that James Bond is part of the title and actually the beginning of the title, so I think it is more proper under J than it is in L.
Cool tips on a rather unassuming comic.
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Post by Defiant1 on Jun 16, 2009 10:56:13 GMT -5
The book has a page laid out like a movie ad with the text "Licence to Kill" in bold followed by the copyright info. If you take a quick glance it looks like it'd be an indicia. If you actually read it, it doesn't fit the contents of what you'd see in an indicia.
I think the Eclipse hardbacks would be nice to own, but at $90 for the James Bond hardback, I'll pass. With reports of some going for up to $500 or more... no way.
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Post by gowaltrip on Jun 16, 2009 11:21:00 GMT -5
I know a good example I just thought of....
The Incredible Hulk....
Don't know how many times I've seen it in comic boxes and various other venues and references as Hulk. But in reality, the Incredible has a ton to do with it to me. It clearly defines the proper volume of books and era. Much the same way Amazing Spider-Man does.
There are so many incarnations of Spider-Man out there. But every collector knows the real deal of Spidey comes off of the Amazing Spider-Man line.
Sometimes the Spider-Man listing is just wrong. I cannot tell you how many times I've been looking for Amazing Spider-Mans and found them filed away in the "S" section of comics.
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Post by Defiant1 on Jun 16, 2009 15:42:14 GMT -5
I know a good example I just thought of.... The Incredible Hulk.... Don't know how many times I've seen it in comic boxes and various other venues and references as Hulk. But in reality, the Incredible has a ton to do with it to me. It clearly defines the proper volume of books and era. Much the same way Amazing Spider-Man does. There are so many incarnations of Spider-Man out there. But every collector knows the real deal of Spidey comes off of the Amazing Spider-Man line. Sometimes the Spider-Man listing is just wrong. I cannot tell you how many times I've been looking for Amazing Spider-Mans and found them filed away in the "S" section of comics. It's rare that anything I want regarding Hulk or Spiderman would even be in a store's regular backstock. Normally what I'd want is behind the counter and I just look at everything regardless of how they file it alphabetically. Defiant1
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Post by Defiant1 on Jun 17, 2009 4:37:44 GMT -5
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Post by Defiant1 on Jun 26, 2009 23:21:21 GMT -5
Think this would go for much? Defiant1
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Post by VaultKeeper on Jun 27, 2009 8:18:56 GMT -5
Yes, and this one also: MH has it for sale at $1.30 in VF. SNATCH 'EM before ol' Chucky raises it to $130.00....
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Post by Defiant1 on Jun 27, 2009 11:18:56 GMT -5
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Post by VaultKeeper on Jun 27, 2009 16:04:44 GMT -5
Ha! I thought so! Ya know, I might have one in a stack of R&R comics I picked up a while back.....
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Post by Defiant1 on Jul 14, 2009 20:06:54 GMT -5
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Post by Quato on Jul 26, 2009 18:53:09 GMT -5
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Post by Defiant1 on Oct 19, 2009 21:51:28 GMT -5
I scanned this for my forever delayed Eclipse checklist. I have no idea where I got this. I think it was within the last couple of years, but I'm not a fan. The art looks nice. Scout #1 Defiant1
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Post by Defiant1 on Dec 24, 2009 3:42:48 GMT -5
Scanning some of the Miracleman issues I own. Please step up and tell me if anything is valuable. I'm not a fan of the series, so I've forgotten why I bought these. Probably because a store was closing and I got their backstock cheap. Miracleman Apocrypha #3 Defiant1
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Post by Defiant1 on Dec 24, 2009 3:47:59 GMT -5
Miracleman #20 Defiant1
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Post by Defiant1 on Dec 24, 2009 3:54:14 GMT -5
Miracleman #21
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Post by Defiant1 on Dec 24, 2009 4:37:31 GMT -5
Miracleman #22 Defiant1
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Post by Defiant1 on Dec 24, 2009 4:39:36 GMT -5
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Post by Brother J on Dec 24, 2009 7:06:58 GMT -5
Scanning some of the Miracleman issues I own. Please step up and tell me if anything is valuable. I'm not a fan of the series, so I've forgotten why I bought these. Probably because a store was closing and I got their backstock cheap. None of them are the issues that go for huge money (#15 or #24 come to mind), but most of the later Miracleman issues have some value.
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Post by Defiant1 on Dec 24, 2009 14:09:38 GMT -5
Well, these sat in understock at a comic book store for 15 years or so when I bought them in a bulk purchase. I probably only paid 15 cents for them. Mysteriously a long box of this stuff disappeared a week before the store closed. I was going to buy more during their final clearance but they'd disappeared
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Post by Defiant1 on Jan 15, 2010 0:50:39 GMT -5
Another one... Miracleman 3D #1 Nothing special about it... just the regular 3D version. Defiant10
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Post by Defiant1 on Oct 13, 2010 22:50:53 GMT -5
I've got confirmation that the limited 2D versions of the 3D comics have the exact same cover. You can't know it's 2D unless you open it.
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Post by Brother J on Oct 14, 2010 17:17:55 GMT -5
I've got confirmation that the limited 2D versions of the 3D comics have the exact same cover. You can't know it's 2D unless you open it. Defiant1 yeah, I figured as much. Whenever I come across any of the Eclipse 3-D books in cheap bins, I always look inside just to check. No luck yet, though.
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Post by Defiant1 on Oct 14, 2010 19:51:24 GMT -5
Even worse, I bought a Miracleman 3D hoping I'd get lucky. Of course I didn't. Someone said that only 350 each were made. Some sources say 500. It's a safe bet the number is low.
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