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Post by vikingspawn on Oct 15, 2011 15:18:35 GMT -5
Cool shoutout! It's on the front page too.. ;D
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Post by Defiant1 on Oct 15, 2011 18:40:31 GMT -5
Cool shoutout! It's on the front page too.. ;D I tend to evoke thought even if people disagree entirely. It didn't stop complete idiot Kintounkal (sp?) from chiming in. I don't think the guy has a clue what I was even talking about. I trust Jim to understand and he did. Defiant1
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Post by vikingspawn on Oct 16, 2011 18:58:06 GMT -5
Regarding the new icloud thing, I tried it the other day and didn't like it. It was really slow to load (about an hour for 1/10 of what I was loading) and the icloud is limited to 5gb of free storage with the option to buy more storage when going over the limit. When I saw how few apps were loading into icloud and how quickly it was taking up space in the 5gb, I cancelled the whole download. It's easier to keep data on a desktop.
For icloud it's an extra $20 for to get 10 gb, $40 for 20 gb & $100 for 50 gb....per year.
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Post by Defiant1 on Oct 16, 2011 19:28:59 GMT -5
Regarding the new icloud thing, I tried it the other day and didn't like it. It was really slow to load (about an hour for 1/10 of what I was loading) and the icloud is limited to 5gb of free storage with the option to buy more storage when going over the limit. When I saw how few apps were loading into icloud and how quickly it was taking up space in the 5gb, I cancelled the whole download. It's easier to keep data on a desktop. For icloud it's an extra $20 for to get 10 gb, $40 for 20 gb & $100 for 50 gb....per year. Using the icloud for storage is just a way to get people accustomed to using the server for things you might usually do on your desktop. Eventually you won't buy programs like Word or Powerpoint. You'll create your documents & slideshows on the Microsoft server. Defiant1
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Post by gowaltrip on Oct 17, 2011 0:38:15 GMT -5
Good job on being a topic dude! I see fanboys everywhere disagree with you without even understanding what you're saying. They'd be happy with stuff written by Todd McFarlane and drawn by Robb Liefeld anyway. So no need to elaborate any further. It would have just been a waste of time to those who didn't understand you the 1st time around.
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Post by Defiant1 on Oct 17, 2011 4:02:26 GMT -5
They'd be happy with stuff written by Todd McFarlane and drawn by Robb Liefeld anyway. sad
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Post by vikingspawn on Oct 19, 2011 21:03:11 GMT -5
I thought the recent "children" vei remarks on there were funny. ;D That place sounds like such a miserable place to work with.
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Post by Defiant1 on Oct 21, 2011 8:19:39 GMT -5
I thought the recent "children" vei remarks on there were funny. ;D That place sounds like such a miserable place to work with. I call them that. I think I said that to JayJay a long time ago. I don't believe for one second VEI wants to publish comics. Defiant1
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Post by vikingspawn on Oct 21, 2011 19:00:56 GMT -5
Pretty nutty story on Steve Rude on the blog today. And a vei business card pic.
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Post by Defiant1 on Oct 22, 2011 0:03:05 GMT -5
Pretty nutty story on Steve Rude on the blog today. And a vei business card pic. I knew someone would post a link to the Toth critique. Not much to say. Defiant1
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Post by Defiant1 on Oct 29, 2011 21:27:51 GMT -5
I stopped into Greg's board and read some comments about Shooter's blog. I figured I'd post some comments here.
1) Shooter and Layton are not the only people who think VEI are flakes. They lied to me and the whole Valiant messageboard when Dino said he was not an owner. They lied to John Taddeo at the auction. I have it on good word that Bill Jemas was also questioning their strategy and logic to get up and running. Layton posted pure vitriol about them. If Jim has a problem with them, I happened to think it's justified and not an isolated issue.
2) In most conditions where Jim has failed, inadequate financial resources or a struggle over money was a big issue. I happen to feel that Jim needs to self publish so that he isn't relying on someone else's bankroll of money to be successful. People self-publish on a shoestring budget all the time. I'd say that Jim should be able to produce a successful project based on the merits of his talent and the merits of his industry connections. In my opinion, he's never been desperate enough to make the plunge. He seems to still get work without immersing himself into a project where he can control everything.
3) Jim has justification to be bitter. Whether he made enemies or not, he was screwed out of his ownership at Valiant through unethical practices that would be illegal today.
4) I kinda feel like Greg's board has a shill for VEI. I never quite pinned one down, bit I think there is one posting.
5) It's amusing to me that so many of the members truly believe VEI is going to immerse themselves in comic publishing. They want a movie deal. Dino got his feet wet in the industry and that's the path he wants to go. He wasted the family's money and you can bet all this hype is an attempt to get studios interested again.
Defiant1
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Post by Brother J on Oct 30, 2011 5:52:56 GMT -5
Yeah, I find it irritating how now that VEI is promising to publish books, many over on the valiantfans board who in the past have criticized VEI and lauded Shooter now are throwing Jim under the bus and jumping on the VEI bandwagon. VEI has proven nothing to me other than the fact that they were clueless and deceptive when they started their business and now are finally pandering to the Valiant fans, hoping everything in the past will be forgotten.
It might just be because I have no interest in following some kind of Valiant revival, but my opinion on the situation is not so easily changed.
Dino used to have shill accounts there, and may still. From the people you see posting in that thread, many of them are friends of Dino who have defended him in the past, and continue to do so, which I have no problem with.
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Post by Defiant1 on Oct 30, 2011 7:48:55 GMT -5
Well, Greg's messageboard is critical to publishing prosperity and getting a movie deal. <Sarcasm>
Defiant1
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Post by VaultKeeper on Nov 1, 2011 19:46:14 GMT -5
With DH's failure with Jim's line, it will be interesting to see how long VEI lasts IF they publish....
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Post by Defiant1 on Nov 1, 2011 21:54:24 GMT -5
With DH's failure with Jim's line, it will be interesting to see how long VEI lasts IF they publish.... Yeah, all that wait for a comic that'll sell 3,000 copies when it hits a stride. Defiant1
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Post by vikingspawn on Nov 2, 2011 20:03:20 GMT -5
With DH's failure with Jim's line, it will be interesting to see how long VEI lasts IF they publish.... Yeah, all that wait for a comic that'll sell 3,000 copies when it hits a stride. Defiant1 That was funny. "3000" ;D I thought there was supposed to be some sort of announcment from them the day after Halloween. Another phantom announcement looks like. I checked the "V" section on new Previews catalog today and there's nothing from them. *snooze*
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Post by Defiant1 on Nov 2, 2011 20:11:39 GMT -5
Yeah, all that wait for a comic that'll sell 3,000 copies when it hits a stride. Defiant1 That was funny. "3000" ;D I thought there was supposed to be some sort of announcment from them the day after Halloween. Another phantom announcement looks like. I checked the "V" section on new Previews catalog today and there's nothing from them. *snooze* I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for anything. Defiant1
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Post by gowaltrip on Nov 4, 2011 6:09:13 GMT -5
With DH's failure with Jim's line, it will be interesting to see how long VEI lasts IF they publish.... Yeah, all that wait for a comic that'll sell 3,000 copies when it hits a stride. Defiant1 I'm actually hoping it fails. Watching the remnants of Valiant is like watching an old Athlete stay in the game long after they should have retired. The output just gets more and more embarrassing and ruins the great legacy it once had.
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Post by magnusr on Nov 5, 2011 2:27:26 GMT -5
The output just gets more and more embarrassing and ruins the great legacy it once had. That is a great summary of why there is so much emotion involved. I will be disappointed if the legacy is wasted. /Magnus
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Post by gowaltrip on Nov 5, 2011 12:54:22 GMT -5
The output just gets more and more embarrassing and ruins the great legacy it once had. That is a great summary of why there is so much emotion involved. I will be disappointed if the legacy is wasted. /Magnus We obviously have different perspectives on it and I appreciate that. I understand the desire to see it back and thriving once again. Unfortunately, there hasn't been anything to get too excited about since the demise of the original run. I'd feel it would have been wasted if revamps hadn't been attempted. It hasn't been wasted at all, it just hasn't been successful since that 1st go round.
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Post by Defiant1 on Nov 5, 2011 19:21:48 GMT -5
That is a great summary of why there is so much emotion involved. I will be disappointed if the legacy is wasted. /Magnus We obviously have different perspectives on it and I appreciate that. I understand the desire to see it back and thriving once again. Unfortunately, there hasn't been anything to get too excited about since the demise of the original run. I'd feel it would have been wasted if revamps hadn't been attempted. It hasn't been wasted at all, it just hasn't been successful since that 1st go round. Reality has set in. I know it's impossible to bring back the unique chemistry that made me care about the comics. The characters were not as important as the chemistry. I can read Jim's blog and it repeatedly shows that his elements of writing are why I cared about them. He didn't do it alone. He did however create the framework for it to happen. Unity 2K and Dark Horse were not his framework. He was an element that the publishers tacked on to whatever plans they wanted to do. For me to be interested, Jim has to be the framework. Magnus and Solar have been run through the mud. If Jim ever does get to work with them again, I do not want a universe centered around either. Defiant1
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Post by VaultKeeper on Nov 6, 2011 9:45:24 GMT -5
Reality has set in. I know it's impossible to bring back the unique chemistry that made me care about the comics. The characters were not as important as the chemistry. I can read Jim's blog and it repeatedly shows that his elements of writing are why I cared about them. He didn't do it alone. He did however create the framework for it to happen. Unity 2K and Dark Horse were not his framework. He was an element that the publishers tacked on to whatever plans they wanted to do. For me to be interested, Jim has to be the framework. Magnus and Solar have been run through the mud. If Jim ever does get to work with them again, I do not want a universe centered around either. Defiant1 I find myself wanting to see Defiant's rebirth.....but without ANY cards. I've always wondered what would have happened if The River Group had never been involved with Defiant. They might have made it through Schism. Of course, Marvel's "Plasmer" lawsuit didn't help matters either......One reason why I still despise Marvel.
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Post by gowaltrip on Nov 6, 2011 10:45:36 GMT -5
I find myself wanting to see Defiant's rebirth.....but without ANY cards. I've always wondered what would have happened if The River Group had never been involved with Defiant. They might have made it through Schism. Of course, Marvel's "Plasmer" lawsuit didn't help matters either......One reason why I still despise Marvel. I would actually be a bit more excited for that than any so called Valiant relaunch. But if they just made it into a clone of all the other crappy comics out there today than I would rather it just stay completely dead. I like how I remember Defiant and Broadway. I'm not feeling the same way with Valiant after its been tampered with so much. I personally think it's okay for good comics to die out and never come back. Those great books still exist. I just hate when new comics come out bearing the same names on them and they end up royally sucking. It just tarnishes things to me. The past is done. Let's see something great that's brand new and has never been seen before. I'd rather wish for great new things to shine and stand out during a bleak future than have half-hearted relaunches from an uncapturable past that doesn't do it's original books any justice at. Defiant1 is right, the characters aren't as important as the chemistry. The relaunches have the characters but not the chemistry.
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Post by Defiant1 on Nov 6, 2011 12:58:06 GMT -5
Broadway was better than Defiant, but I think I'd rather see a reboot of Defiant because it has more potential to get better. If it got worse, I wouldn't be too frustrated. The concepts were really out there. Dark Dominion has huge potential in my opinion.
Defiant1
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Post by vikingspawn on Nov 6, 2011 17:18:47 GMT -5
I prefer a Plasm return over anything Valiant or Gold Key. Without the "Warriors of" in the title. Dark Horse should let Shooter have that one title if they still want to work with him and let him handle it like his own "creator owned" book without an editor so he's in charge of everything, and he just works with whoever artist he picks and then turn in the pages like the creator owned folks do it. And let the buzz build and add Dark Dominion as a second title months later. It works for Hellboy and those connecting spinoff books it has. I wouldn't mind seeing a 20 years later Plasm to update the thing and still make the old stories count. And then add "Schism" as a flashback story to finally see it.
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Post by Defiant1 on Nov 6, 2011 17:48:02 GMT -5
That'd work, but I don't want the Dark Horse name on it.
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Post by vikingspawn on Nov 7, 2011 13:58:40 GMT -5
Is it possible that Shooter himself could get the rights to publish Plasm through Illustrated Media or under any indie imprint?
I figured since Dark Horse has that Classic Media relationship, they would have a better chance at making a quicker deal for those characters.
Didn't Shooter say he still had a stake in those characters since he created them? I thought I read that in an interview somewhere. Maybe he can resurrect them himself if he wanted to. I'd buy it. Even if it's a kickstarter type of thing.
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Post by Defiant1 on Nov 7, 2011 16:47:17 GMT -5
Is it possible that Shooter himself could get the rights to publish Plasm through Illustrated Media or under any indie imprint? I figured since Dark Horse has that Classic Media relationship, they would have a better chance at making a quicker deal for those characters. Didn't Shooter say he still had a stake in those characters since he created them? I thought I read that in an interview somewhere. Maybe he can resurrect them himself if he wanted to. I'd buy it. Even if it's a kickstarter type of thing. Jim doesn't want to self publish from all the evidence I've seen. I think he said that to do publishing right, a company would need to start with 5 million dollars. I'm betting classic media leases a character at a time. I may be wrong, but I'm betting it's not a sealed deal for Dark Horse. I've seen no evidence that Jim has a stake in any of it. If he ever did, I'd bet he cashed out long ago. Alan Weiss owns Wardancer according to Pauline Weiss. Defiant1
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Post by vikingspawn on Nov 8, 2011 13:19:34 GMT -5
Maybe those futurists from that NYCC science panel can chip in some of the 5 mil. ;D
I thought some sort of announcement was going to get announced at that panel other than just talking.
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Post by Defiant1 on Nov 8, 2011 22:11:50 GMT -5
Maybe those futurists from that NYCC science panel can chip in some of the 5 mil. ;D I thought some sort of announcement was going to get announced at that panel other than just talking. He's saying much more now if you read yesterday's blog. Defiant1
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