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Post by starseed on Oct 6, 2013 11:30:22 GMT -5
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Post by Defiant1 on Oct 6, 2013 12:28:36 GMT -5
It's all speculation, but still interesting observations. I'll be honest though... If the characters are based upon the old Gold Key stories, I'm not interested in them. In all honesty, I'm really hoping that if Jim comes back he works on anything other than Magnus, Solar, and Turok. Turok has never interested me anyway. If the characters are reused, I'm more interested in Dr. Spektor. Above all else, I don't want anything that resembles what the modern publishers are publishing. The exception may be the childrens comics like Popeye, Peanuts, and similar titles by Boom & IDW. Defiant1
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Post by starseed on Oct 6, 2013 15:24:40 GMT -5
Dr. Spektor would be nice. I'm hoping for more Dr. Solar, too.
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Post by Defiant1 on Oct 6, 2013 15:32:05 GMT -5
Dr. Spektor would be nice. I'm hoping for more Dr. Solar, too. Everything that was once cool about Solar has been worn thin. It's like taking steak and running it through a meat grinder. It comes out as hamburger meat. Jim needs a fresh start and to quit trying to reinvent the wheel for a third time. This is assuming IDW can and would afford Jim. I think Jim is priced out of the current market because sales are so low across the board. Defiant1
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Post by starseed on Oct 6, 2013 15:47:34 GMT -5
I believe Mike Richardson told Shooter he wanted a brand new origin for Dr. Solar, and wanted him different than he'd been done before.
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Post by Defiant1 on Oct 6, 2013 16:20:27 GMT -5
I believe Mike Richardson told Shooter he wanted a brand new origin for Dr. Solar, and wanted him different than he'd been done before. They had to do something different. IDW would have to do something different also. That's really the main problem. Defiant1
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Post by starseed on Oct 6, 2013 16:22:42 GMT -5
I believe Mike Richardson told Shooter he wanted a brand new origin for Dr. Solar, and wanted him different than he'd been done before. They had to do something different. IDW would have to do something different also. That's really the main problem. Defiant1 Maybe Dr. Spektor would be better...
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Post by Defiant1 on Oct 6, 2013 17:05:15 GMT -5
They had to do something different. IDW would have to do something different also. That's really the main problem. Defiant1 Maybe Dr. Spektor would be better... I think he would be a better launch character. There would be no baggage associated with him. If they wanted to bring Solar in later as some omnipresent God that could manifest himself how and where he pleases, that could be a nice background transition that could boost interest in the issues where he appears. There has been too much focus on Solar and Magnus. Too many expectations are tied to the characters. Better to start with a character where people don't have high expectations. I also feel that if Jim makes another attempt at it, that he needs to focus on an all ages audience. It can be mature dialogue without exploring sex and sexuality as the predominant theme. There is no reason to alienate any demographic group like "children" or "devout Christian" right from the start. Defiant1
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Post by starseed on Oct 6, 2013 21:35:29 GMT -5
I'm wondering if Jim didn't alienate Classic Media as well with some of the stuff he put in his Doctor Solar run at Dark Horse.
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Post by Defiant1 on Oct 6, 2013 22:50:07 GMT -5
I'm wondering if Jim didn't alienate Classic Media as well with some of the stuff he put in his Doctor Solar run at Dark Horse. I doubt it. It's possible, but I think Jim knew what they would tolerate. Keep in mind Dark Horse approved those scripts. The responsibility falls on them. Defiant1
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Post by vikingspawn on Oct 9, 2013 0:22:46 GMT -5
There are reprint trades of Magnus coming in November and a Solar trade in January from Dark horse. Not sure if that's their way of keeping the reprint license alive. IDW might be a more interesting place than Image for a Shooter universe. Even though they go variant crazy and the books are $3.99. I was at the shop and picked up Brain Boy #1, Catalyst #2 and Occultist #1 for the hell of it. Two of them have the "Project Black Sky" label logo on the covers. I keep thinking the black sky is connected to where the Shooter books were heading with that black vortex in the sky. These new Dark Horse Heroes comics were $2.99 so i'm giving them a shot. What I do before I read the story is jump the the end and read the letter columns first. I notice each of these books have 3 different editors. One editor for Brain Boy is a Jim Gibbons who wrote a lengthy editorial in the back. For a split second I thought it might have been a ghost name for Shooter but it probably isn't with the way it was written. I dont see Chris Warner's name on the credits who ran the Gold Key books years back. Not much promotion has been happening with the "Project Black Sky" so far. Who knows what tricks they have up their sleeves for the line... Doctor Spektor would be cool to see under Shooter's writing directions.
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Post by Defiant1 on Oct 9, 2013 5:00:35 GMT -5
There are reprint trades of Magnus coming in November and a Solar trade in January from Dark horse. Not sure if that's their way of keeping the reprint license alive. IDW might be a more interesting place than Image for a Shooter universe. Even though they go variant crazy and the books are $3.99. I was at the shop and picked up Brain Boy #1, Catalyst #2 and Occultist #1 for the hell of it. Two of them have the "Project Black Sky" label logo on the covers. I keep thinking the black sky is connected to where the Shooter books were heading with that black vortex in the sky. These new Dark Horse Heroes comics were $2.99 so i'm giving them a shot. What I do before I read the story is jump the the end and read the letter columns first. I notice each of these books have 3 different editors. One editor for Brain Boy is a Jim Gibbons who wrote a lengthy editorial in the back. For a split second I thought it might have been a ghost name for Shooter but it probably isn't with the way it was written. I dont see Chris Warner's name on the credits who ran the Gold Key books years back. Not much promotion has been happening with the "Project Black Sky" so far. Who knows what tricks they have up their sleeves for the line... Doctor Spektor would be cool to see under Shooter's writing directions. Dark Horse betrayed my trust, so even if Jim was writing for them the trust issue is still an overwhelming one which makes me never want to buy their product. Ever. Defiant1
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Post by starseed on Oct 9, 2013 12:10:29 GMT -5
I was pretty upset at Dark Horse too at the time. VikingSpawn, thanks for the updates and your insights into this stuff.
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Post by Defiant1 on Oct 9, 2013 15:38:22 GMT -5
I was pretty upset at Dark Horse too at the time. VikingSpawn, thanks for the updates and your insights into this stuff.+1 Defiant1
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Post by starseed on Oct 10, 2013 13:56:26 GMT -5
According to Bleeding Cool, Dynamite is bringing back Solar, Man of the Atom!!!
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Post by starseed on Oct 10, 2013 14:16:48 GMT -5
If someone could post a link here from Bleeding Cool regarding this, I'd appreciate it. One guy on a message board is already supposing this will be a line with Solar, Magnus, Turok, and a fourth title which I'm thinking could be Doctor Spektor. Mark Waid, Fred Van Lente, And Greg Pak are three of the writers named. I can't recall the fourth writer, and with apologies hadn't heard of him.
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Post by verloc on Oct 10, 2013 16:20:44 GMT -5
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Post by Defiant1 on Oct 10, 2013 16:20:50 GMT -5
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Post by verloc on Oct 10, 2013 17:01:36 GMT -5
Frank Barbiere wrote Five Ghosts for Image. Doctor Spektor sounds possible.
KV
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Post by Defiant1 on Oct 10, 2013 19:49:42 GMT -5
Well, it's not a new pen name for Jim. I had never heard of the guy.
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Post by vikingspawn on Oct 10, 2013 20:55:50 GMT -5
Wonder what made Dynamite choose Doctor Spektor if that's the character of the 4th title. Shooter's really been the one voicing the character's return in the old 2009-2010 DarkHorse interviews. And Dynamite has all their digital books streamed and sold through Dark Horse's site. Think Shooter's the secret main editor of the line? Gonna be an interesting Comicon news weekend.... There's also this brief name drop by Mark Waid: 13thdimension.com/mighty-qa-mark-waid/What was your greatest influence?Mark Waid: In comics? Writer Jim Shooter, whose ability to marry character and plot and structure was terrific. As a writer outside comics? William Goldman and David E. Kelley. ----------------------------------------------------- The plot thickens. VEI just got bitchslapped with this announcement. ;D
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Post by Defiant1 on Oct 11, 2013 0:50:25 GMT -5
Wonder what made Dynamite choose Doctor Spektor if that's the character of the 4th title. Shooter's really been the one voicing the character's return in the old 2009-2010 DarkHorse interviews. And Dynamite has all their digital books streamed and sold through Dark Horse's site. Think Shooter's the secret main editor of the line? Gonna be an interesting Comicon news weekend.... There's also this brief name drop by Mark Waid: 13thdimension.com/mighty-qa-mark-waid/What was your greatest influence?Mark Waid: In comics? Writer Jim Shooter, whose ability to marry character and plot and structure was terrific. As a writer outside comics? William Goldman and David E. Kelley. ----------------------------------------------------- The plot thickens. VEI just got bitchslapped with this announcement. ;D Jim always speaks highly of Mark Waid. It appears there is a mutual respect. I don't think Dynamite can afford Jim as a full extra layer of cost over and above the writers they've named. Defiant1
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Post by starseed on Oct 11, 2013 11:07:29 GMT -5
I'm on a tablet, so forgive me when I don't post links and use the quick reply option at times. This is the first I've heard that Dynamite was the entity that was behind VIP. I honestly didn't think we'd ever find that info out.
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Post by starseed on Oct 11, 2013 11:32:41 GMT -5
I'm not sure I've read any new books since the dark-key line folded. I'm intending to read this line, which has some talented writers.
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Post by starseed on Oct 11, 2013 11:38:59 GMT -5
Comicbookresoirces has a huge update on this line, with lots of important new info and a fairly lenghthy interview. Some art is included. If someone could post the link, I'd be grateful.
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Post by starseed on Oct 11, 2013 11:41:53 GMT -5
The line is Turok, Magnus, Solar, and Doctor Spektor. Waid is writing Spektor!
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Post by starseed on Oct 11, 2013 11:53:07 GMT -5
Nate Cosby is the line editor. Turok debuts in February and is written by Pak. Magnus starts in March and will be penned by Van Lente. In April comes Doctor Spektor with Waid as scribe, and May sees the new Solar title hitting the stands with Barbiere on the writing chores.
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Post by vikingspawn on Oct 11, 2013 13:02:29 GMT -5
I'm a little interested in the Solar stuff and Spektor. The last Dynamite stuff I bought was Battlestar Galactica, Army of Darkness and Robocop. And some Garth Ennis books. I think Masks too.
They are still $4 comics and will go variant crazy soon. Would be funny if their first #0 issues are $.25 cents like Red Sonja was and they get bragging rights with how much was ordered.
They'll have some better artists on their covers at least.
Jet Dream and her Counter Spies covers by J. Scott Cambell might be fun. I always wanted to see Dynamite take over the Indiana Jones license. They'll do a better job at promoting their line than Dark Horse did for those characters.
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Post by Defiant1 on Oct 11, 2013 17:08:03 GMT -5
I'm not sure I've read any new books since the dark-key line folded. I'm intending to read this line, which has some talented writers. I've read a few in the comic book store and I've read some of the Treasuries I bought. Defiant1
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Post by Defiant1 on Oct 11, 2013 17:09:52 GMT -5
It's not really something I plan on supporting.
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