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Post by gowaltrip on Nov 16, 2009 12:45:05 GMT -5
Ive never purchased any Flaming Carrot comics although I've always wanted to. The thing that gets me, is it looks like he's a pretty decent artist whenever I see his backgrounds and supporting characters. But the Flaming Carrot is such an EASY figure to draw! It's almost funny. Sometimes the simplicity of things that work and make money really hits me sometimes.
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Post by Defiant1 on Nov 16, 2009 17:28:37 GMT -5
Ive never purchased any Flaming Carrot comics although I've always wanted to. The thing that gets me, is it looks like he's a pretty decent artist whenever I see his backgrounds and supporting characters. But the Flaming Carrot is such an EASY figure to draw! It's almost funny. Sometimes the simplicity of things that work and make money really hits me sometimes. Keep in mind that the character was created early in his career. The ability to redraw a recognizable character is a key to it's success. Bob and I got to talking about people we both knew.... before we knew each other. He was going to the comic store I was going to back in the late 70's but neither of us knew each other until the 90's.He started telling a story about him and Steranko visiting a shop called Cantrell's. I started going there after it was bought by a different owner and renamed. He knows all these people I met back then so it was pretty cool. I first remember meeting Bob at my friend Sean's in-store signing with Linsner. Bob was there doing sketches and signing stuff too. Sean's wife a few months later showed up on a Cadillacs and Dinosaurs cover drawn for Topps by Linsner. Sean also commissioned a couple of painting by Linsner. Linsner eventually bought them back from Sean. Odd but I remember a lot from that day. Bob was not a direct influence for me drawing my cartoon, but he was a big influence because I got to see how real artists do what they do. I'd seen Geoprge Perez at Atlanta Fantasy Fair, but drawing wasn't even on my mind back then. Defiant1 |
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Post by vikingspawn on Jun 23, 2010 15:13:23 GMT -5
Here's a pic of a Flaming Carrot/Golden Apple card I had in my stash:  These cards (they're more like postcard size) were made for the 10th Anniversary of the Golden Apple Comic stores in LA 1989. Pretty cool card set to have and it had a bunch of other artists contributing artwork for the rest of the set too. I bought a small set a few years ago and this one had Bob Burden's autograph. |
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Post by Defiant1 on Jun 23, 2010 16:17:01 GMT -5
Haven't run into Bob in awhile. Didn't see him at the last local show. I used to run into him at very odd times... quite unexpected. Computer stores, restaurants, places like that. Nice stuff. He was showing me art for an upcoming story last time I saw him.
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Post by Defiant1 on Sept 3, 2010 17:27:59 GMT -5
A recent Ashcan sized purchase from Bob... The Pharisee and Other Cartoons Preview #nn (Killian Barracks Press)  The back cover...  Defiant1 |
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Post by Defiant1 on Sept 3, 2010 18:10:13 GMT -5
Bob gave me these ashcan sized item today... Disorderly House #3 Preview Edition (B&W Cover, Killian Barracks Press)  This was free with the purchase of the Pharisee publication above. Same as above but the inside cover is blank whereas the B&W has text. Disorderly House #3 (Color Cover, Killian Barracks Press)  Here is the back cover of the color version...  Defiant1 |
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Post by Defiant1 on Sept 8, 2010 17:35:58 GMT -5
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Post by vikingspawn on Sept 8, 2010 18:33:20 GMT -5
Do you have any of the Flaming Carrot trade paperbacks from Dark Horse?
The first 2 collections are hard to find. Probably due to the low print runs from the late '90s.
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Post by Defiant1 on Sept 8, 2010 18:52:01 GMT -5
I never owned any Flaming Carrot stuff except Visions #3 for many years. Visions #3 was a freebie at an Atlanta Fantasy Fair convention. I own a stack of the comics that Bob had given me. I ran into him on the way home from work one evening. I stopped into a BBQ restaurant to eat and he'd just sat down We had dinner together and chatted. Upon leaving, he handed me a pretty hefty stack of Flaming Carrot comics. Later I bought a Flaming Carrot #1 for the hell of it. This past year I bought a Flaming Carrot Hardcover and he gave me an Image TPB. I'm not really collecting Flaming Carrot. I like supporting the work of my friends and I'll pick up a limited oddity from time to time. I always like oddball stuff like the items I got this past weekend.
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Post by Brother J on Sept 9, 2010 16:51:55 GMT -5
Do you have any of the Flaming Carrot trade paperbacks from Dark Horse? The first 2 collections are hard to find. Probably due to the low print runs from the late '90s. I have the Dark Horse Vol. 1: Flaming Carrot: Man of Mystery. Are you looking to buy? Let me know if you are. I don't really have any interest in keeping it because I have all the original issues. |
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Post by Brother J on Sept 14, 2010 17:38:58 GMT -5
Do you have any of the Flaming Carrot trade paperbacks from Dark Horse? The first 2 collections are hard to find. Probably due to the low print runs from the late '90s. I have the Dark Horse Vol. 1: Flaming Carrot: Man of Mystery. Are you looking to buy? Let me know if you are. I don't really have any interest in keeping it because I have all the original issues. since you totally ignored this post, never mind. I listed it on eBay. |
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Post by Defiant1 on Sept 14, 2010 18:20:11 GMT -5
I have the Dark Horse Vol. 1: Flaming Carrot: Man of Mystery. Are you looking to buy? Let me know if you are. I don't really have any interest in keeping it because I have all the original issues. since you totally ignored this post, never mind. I listed it on eBay. I can't help but laugh at the way your response sounds.  Good luck with it. |
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Post by vikingspawn on Sept 15, 2010 13:32:49 GMT -5
;D lol....I didn't ignore you.....give me a chance to reply!...   I'll check out your ebay auction. I like hunting for old '90s DH tpbs. |
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Post by Defiant1 on Sept 15, 2010 15:16:19 GMT -5
Brother J's response sounded like something I'd write. Is that the Leo shining through?
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Post by vikingspawn on Sept 15, 2010 20:43:14 GMT -5
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Post by Defiant1 on Sept 15, 2010 22:49:55 GMT -5
I like Dave Stevens work. Don't think I've ever seen that before.
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Post by vikingspawn on Sept 16, 2010 14:15:59 GMT -5
I found a "Rocketeer" copy on Amazon right after I posted....phew! They weren't listed there last year but I found one that's not an "ex-library" copy or marked up and bent like the others listed on there. Hope it arrives mint though.  |
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Post by Brother J on Sept 16, 2010 18:20:04 GMT -5
I've got that Rocketeer trade, as well. Haven't put it on eBay because it's hit or miss if they go for good money.
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Post by vikingspawn on Sept 16, 2010 20:57:29 GMT -5
I've got that Rocketeer trade, as well. Haven't put it on eBay because it's hit or miss if they go for good money. What else you got? ;D That trade is a keeper. Never seen it on ebay. Same for the statue/tin. |
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Post by vikingspawn on Sept 26, 2010 13:20:23 GMT -5
I got the Rocketeer trade....surprised to see that it's Album sized instead of a regular trade paperback. It says "Volume II" on the side and it reprints the later issues of the story.
I noticed there's a Rocketeer 3D comic with a Neal Adams cover out there too. Wonder what the interior artwork features.
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Post by Defiant1 on Sept 26, 2010 15:36:38 GMT -5
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Post by Defiant1 on Sept 11, 2011 18:27:50 GMT -5
After all these years, I finally saw the Mystery Men movie. It was worse than I imagined it would be. It had some funny moments, but overall I know why I never rushed out to see it. It was made in a campy style I don't typically like.
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Post by Defiant1 on Jul 21, 2012 19:24:57 GMT -5
The odds are much less that I'll see Bob anymore, but I did stop by a comic shop to look around. While there, I met someone who told me Bob had a kickstarter project just make it's goal.
I got a little inside scoop on how kickstarter works and few inside perspectives on this project in general. My understanding is that kickstarter has middlemen that have to be involved. You have to wait on their availability. It sounds like they play the role as your agent and they get a cut on the profits. Obviously, someone with a little more clout or reputation is more likely to get preferential treatment. Evidently these middlemen can ask for perks in addition to their normal cut. Whether that's the way it was intended to be setup or not, that is what I'm told happens. Bob was asked for original art which has very high resale value for him. To me, it sounds like Bob was being asked to bribe the middleman. When Bob explained the situation, I'm told the guy said "What about after you die." It sounds like he was exploiting every angle in the most tasteless way. This project is projected to do well, but I see you have to donate at the $50 level to actually get a hard copy. One person did donate at the $5.000 level. The real name was difficult to pronounce. I'm told Cully Hamner speculated it was an oil sheik.
None of this is a first-person account. As far as rumor and gossip goes, it is a second-person account.
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Post by Brother J on Jul 22, 2012 10:53:11 GMT -5
Good luck to Bob, but not even slightly interested in paying $50 for a book just for an 8 page story that I don't have and reprints of a bunch of stuff I do have.
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Post by Defiant1 on Jul 22, 2012 12:04:57 GMT -5
Good luck to Bob, but not even slightly interested in paying $50 for a book just for an 8 page story that I don't have and reprints of a bunch of stuff I do have. When I talked to my source for this information, I was not aware that the book was "the" reprint that me & Bob had discussed 2 years ago. I assumed that the book was already published by now. I do agree that 8 pages is VERY little incentive to buy it if you are in it for the stories. I really question how much profit this is making him if he has to part with sets of his most valuable back issues to entice an investor. I'm told the project is expected to pull in $120,000. I don't believe it. I think that is the middleman selling the project as more than it is in order to get perks out of the deal. I don't think there is enough physical product being offered at any of the price levels to achieve that. By that I mean there isn't enough enticement for people to part with cash. $1 gets you a secret message... essentially nothing. $50 is the lowest level to get a book! So far only 200 or so investors. I wish him the best, but I think this has only given him a means to distribute a low print run publication which wouldn't have met Diamond's minimum requirements. Defiant1 |
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Post by Defiant1 on Nov 10, 2012 15:40:53 GMT -5
Believe it or not, Bob has a lot of stuff brewing in the pipeline. The big announcement is that he has an online store opening this month. I'm not sure what else I can mention. Evidently the movie Seven Psychopaths has a nod to the Flaming Carrot. A poster or something appears prominently in the back ground at some point. Evidently the producer or director is a fan of Bob's work. I have not seen it nor have I seen Bob in awhile. Someone who keeps in touch with Bob regularly briefed me on a few interesting tidbits that I thought were pretty cool.
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Post by Defiant1 on Dec 8, 2013 19:27:14 GMT -5
I talked to Bob Burden a little bit at a comic show today. His new Kickstarter project ends Tuesday (12/10/2013). He was trying to rally support. It will feature a cover collaboration that he did with Dave Stevens. He says that it will feature unpublished art & text pieces.  I conveyed to him that his fans are looking for new material. He's got another Kickstarter project that will be announced sometime after this one. He had someone passing out secret messages for him along with the small ad above.  Defiant1 |
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Post by Brother J on Dec 8, 2013 21:08:00 GMT -5
I am more interested in this than his last Kickstarter thing, but in the video he mentioned $40 would be the level involved to get a copy. I don't think I'm in the market for a sketchbook at $40, really. I find it hard to believe that Bob couldn't find a publisher (Image or Dark Horse) interested in putting out new Flaming Carrot stories if Bob was interested in creating them, so I'm going to assume he's not interested in doing so.
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Post by Defiant1 on Dec 8, 2013 22:54:06 GMT -5
I am more interested in this than his last Kickstarter thing, but in the video he mentioned $40 would be the level involved to get a copy. I don't think I'm in the market for a sketchbook at $40, really. I find it hard to believe that Bob couldn't find a publisher (Image or Dark Horse) interested in putting out new Flaming Carrot stories if Bob was interested in creating them, so I'm going to assume he's not interested in doing so. He made a comment to me once that he was doing better self-publishing and the implication was that he didn't need Dark Horse or Image. This should be a hardcover. I think he's pushing the digital versions too much. I think it's too confusing about what he's offering. It looks like you don't even get a copy of this book at the $50 level. It needs more pictures and better and more tangible incentives. I think he moves the hardcovers well at the $49 price point at shows. You have to spend $100 to get the one with a sketch and I think that's the one limited to 250 copies. Long term, that's probably the best value and most likely to sell for more after it sells out. On the VCS hardcovers that Ryan had bound, I shelled out something like $150 a piece for two because I upgraded to leather binding. After the project was over I sold one for $300 within a year. I made my money back and still have a copy. I'm guessing Bob will not sell out of the Champagne edition within a year. I'm betting you could get $175-$200 after about 2 years. 250 copies of the premium is not a lot. It really depends on how many genuine fans he has out there as to whether it's a good investment. The book probably costs $20 to print or more. It's a tough decision and it really depends upon how much you l ike... cherish his work. I don't think it's a bad investment. It should have the $49 price printed on it. I think that if you found one collector that really liked his work and didn't know it was out there, that he'd be willing to pay at least $50 to get a regular edition. Would you have paid $50 for a Fatale HC 15 years ago if you knew people would be shamelessly pricing it $2500 today? As far as whether Bob wants to put out Flaming Carrot, I think he'd put out more if it was making him more profit for the effort it takes. I think the kickstarter projects are testing the waters on whether he can turn a profit, pay everyone involved etc. Defiant1 |
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