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Post by Defiant1 on Mar 23, 2010 4:40:17 GMT -5
Peerless Periodicals (Comic Book Classics) www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/pages/Peerless-Periodicals-Comic-Book-Classics/370762809508?ref=nf Defiant1 |
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Post by Defiant1 on Mar 26, 2010 19:45:14 GMT -5
Hmmm!
It looks like Catfish Comics may be going retro.
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Post by Defiant1 on Mar 27, 2010 17:19:37 GMT -5
Artwork....
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Post by Defiant1 on Mar 27, 2010 17:25:02 GMT -5
Another...  Defiant1 |
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Post by Defiant1 on Mar 27, 2010 17:38:08 GMT -5
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Post by gowaltrip on Mar 28, 2010 10:41:01 GMT -5
This looks a lot more modern than 1941. |
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Post by Defiant1 on Mar 28, 2010 11:33:58 GMT -5
 Hence my use of the word "retro". A "press release" was issued in the mid-90's that Peerless Publications was suing Catfish Comics over the use of the Sinnamon character claiming that they had used the character name in the Golden Age. Catfish Comics was going to publish the Golden Age stories as part of the settlement. What does that mean to me and you? The publisher was taking his obscure indy comic character and company and he was designing a larger footprint on the hobby. He was making people curious about his company. He was making people talk and ask questions about this fictitious scenario and a fictitious 1940's company just as you did. He is after-all a writer and he is just taking it up a layer and creating a story outside of the comic themselves that carries over onto the web. He was developing word-of-mouth talk. I find it entertaining. I think it's some creative marketing. The work looks more modern to me too. I'm watching this mockumentary news unfold on facebook. Defiant1
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Post by gowaltrip on Mar 29, 2010 19:44:08 GMT -5
Sorry, I must of missed that. The page you show had such a "matter of fact" comment about being released in 1941, I didn't pay any attention to "retro" comment. I guess I should have realized it. I was thinking "wow, this is pretty nice for 1941".  |
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Post by Defiant1 on Mar 29, 2010 22:08:39 GMT -5
Sorry, I must of missed that. The page you show had such a "matter of fact" comment about being released in 1941, I didn't pay any attention to "retro" comment. I guess I should have realized it. I was thinking "wow, this is pretty nice for 1941". That was exact quote from the facebook page... so yeah... it's intended to make you think.I wonder if they are going to publish or go web only. Evidently Nick has given up film making for awhile. Just a guess. Defiant1 |
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Post by Defiant1 on Mar 31, 2010 19:58:40 GMT -5
Not real impressed with this image. Terrible proportions, but I like the writer's wit.
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Post by Defiant1 on Mar 31, 2010 20:02:09 GMT -5
Much better.
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Post by Defiant1 on Apr 2, 2010 16:34:16 GMT -5
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Post by RedAngel on Apr 30, 2010 15:37:16 GMT -5
More images... Poliwko is credited with the last one, but it looks a hell of a lot more like Delaney art with Poliwko inks or possibly vice-versa. It's all Poliwko! M. Gerald Delaney had nothing to do with any of this. |
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Post by superggraphics on Apr 30, 2010 15:42:41 GMT -5
Any chance of new material seeing print in comic book form?
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Post by gowaltrip on Apr 30, 2010 20:28:19 GMT -5
Any chance of new material seeing print in comic book form? Actually, I was wondering the same thing myself. |
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Post by RedAngel on May 3, 2010 10:55:16 GMT -5
"Any chance of new material seeing print in comic book form?"
There is a chance. One of the key factors is whether there's any demand for new material. I think this Facebook page is helping to build some awareness.
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Post by Defiant1 on May 3, 2010 14:53:29 GMT -5
  Finally someone who friggin' understands what marketing is and a million creative ways to do it. You consistently earn my respect because you have the ability to think outside the box (even if I disagree sometimes). Defiant1
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Post by superggraphics on May 3, 2010 15:56:16 GMT -5
"Any chance of new material seeing print in comic book form?" There is a chance. One of the key factors is whether there's any demand for new material. I think this Facebook page is helping to build some awareness. Thanks for the reply and the info... Much Appreciated! |
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Post by RedAngel on May 3, 2010 16:51:04 GMT -5
You give me too much credit.
I think successful marketing takes creativity, persistence, and a belief in your product (service, etc). I'm not sure I've been as strong as required with those last two factors. It's a work in progress.
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Post by Defiant1 on May 3, 2010 19:22:22 GMT -5
You give me too much credit. I think successful marketing takes creativity, persistence, and a belief in your product (service, etc). I'm not sure I've been as strong as required with those last two factors. It's a work in progress. No, you are not persistent. I'll grant you that. You do have to be persistent. You are definitely creative. You think on a bigger scale. I've had endless arguments with people who don't understand the concept of marketing beyond placing an ad or having their product reviewed in a positive light. Marketing is a psychological tool to get your product remembered and it is a psychological approach to get people to want your product. An ad is just one very formulaic approach. Modern society typically shuts out an ad. We want TV ads to entertain us, or we flip the channel instantly. Marketing companies are constantly looking for the formula to make a viral ad. An ad that fills a void so effectively that it grabs positive responses geometrically. I think circumstances out of your control disrupted the strong formula you had with Sinnamon in the beginning. If you could have pulled in more artists like Pia Guerra and Mike with their consistently tight styles of art, and filled out those months of uncontrollable delays between issues, I think Catfish was poised to keep growing even in a diminishing market. The simple fact that Sinnamon #3 was your best selling comic defies all marketing trends. #1's typically come out of the gate the strongest. Orders are usually blind normally blind for #2-4 so they drop off 50% for #2's, and maybe 25% for #3's & 4's. . Issue #3 did have a little delay, but the title definitely impressed most of the people who ordered it, or sales would NOT have increased. It's an anomaly in the comics industry. I know your 2006 release was an experiment to some degree, but you were thinking outside of the box. Hiring William Messner-Loebs to draw your cover right when he was at a very low point in his life, not only helped the man, but it also marketed the book when the odds were already against it even getting noticed at all. It's a shame his Sinnamon credits don't show up in the bibliography they published about him, but it was still a good thing to do both morally and creatively. When I look at some of the artists that worked on your very small universe, I'm impressed with your foresight in hiring them. If you need an inker or a letterer, board member superggraphics has turned out some solid work. Defiant1 |
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