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Post by toddluck on Jun 28, 2005 9:56:23 GMT -5
This was a nice little line of comics from what little I've seen. Solid art (usually). Interesting characters, a lot of intrigue. The Ferret and Arrow one-shots were very quirky, very original stories. The ongoing Protectors series was good for the first year or so.
Does Marvel own these characters now? Have they done anything with them if they do?
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Post by Defiant1 on Jun 28, 2005 17:36:20 GMT -5
This was a nice little line of comics from what little I've seen. Solid art (usually). Interesting characters, a lot of intrigue. The Ferret and Arrow one-shots were very quirky, very original stories. The ongoing Protectors series was good for the first year or so. Does Marvel own these characters now? Have they done anything with them if they do? 1) I think they do. 2) I don't know. I never cared for the stuff. I'm far more interested in the Eternity/Adventure imprints as well as any other imprints they used. Defiant1 |
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Post by toddluck on Jun 29, 2005 9:20:35 GMT -5
This was a nice little line of comics from what little I've seen. Solid art (usually). Interesting characters, a lot of intrigue. The Ferret and Arrow one-shots were very quirky, very original stories. The ongoing Protectors series was good for the first year or so. Does Marvel own these characters now? Have they done anything with them if they do? 1) I think they do. 2) I don't know. I never cared for the stuff. I'm far more interested in the Eternity/Adventure imprints as well as any other imprints they used. Defiant1 For some reason it's hard to find people on the net who followed the books (they definately had their followers back in the day). It kind of got drowned out in the avalanche of new universes in the 90's. It felt more fresh and original to me than some of the more "cloned" universes like Ultraverse and Comics Greatest World. That was probably because they working with some characters and concepts from a different era. I'm surprised I haven't heard about Marvel using them. Some of the series, particularly the original miniseries (1-6), seemed eerily relevant for today with a group of heroes that are commisioned by the government to stop terrorist attacts on Washington, DC. The politics involved and the tragedy of the Brinkston incident that looms over them reads different now than it did 15 years ago. |
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Post by Defiant1 on Jun 29, 2005 14:40:26 GMT -5
1) I think they do. 2) I don't know. I never cared for the stuff. I'm far more interested in the Eternity/Adventure imprints as well as any other imprints they used. Defiant1 For some reason it's hard to find people on the net who followed the books (they definately had their followers back in the day). It kind of got drowned out in the avalanche of new universes in the 90's. It felt more fresh and original to me than some of the more "cloned" universes like Ultraverse and Comics Greatest World. That was probably because they working with some characters and concepts from a different era. I'm surprised I haven't heard about Marvel using them. Some of the series, particularly the original miniseries (1-6), seemed eerily relevant for today with a group of heroes that are commisioned by the government to stop terrorist attacts on Washington, DC. The politics involved and the tragedy of the Brinkston incident that looms over them reads different now than it did 15 years ago. I never knew people who really cared about them and read them. I knew people who bought them in hopes they be worth something. The gimmicks may have run people off. Defiant1 |
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Post by toddluck on Jun 29, 2005 16:01:07 GMT -5
For some reason it's hard to find people on the net who followed the books (they definately had their followers back in the day). It kind of got drowned out in the avalanche of new universes in the 90's. It felt more fresh and original to me than some of the more "cloned" universes like Ultraverse and Comics Greatest World. That was probably because they working with some characters and concepts from a different era. I'm surprised I haven't heard about Marvel using them. Some of the series, particularly the original miniseries (1-6), seemed eerily relevant for today with a group of heroes that are commisioned by the government to stop terrorist attacts on Washington, DC. The politics involved and the tragedy of the Brinkston incident that looms over them reads different now than it did 15 years ago. I never knew people who really cared about them and read them. I knew people who bought them in hopes they be worth something. The gimmicks may have run people off. Defiant1 What gimmicks? Some of the issues had alternate covers but that seems EXTREMELY mild compared to every other company at the time. |
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Post by Defiant1 on Jun 29, 2005 18:53:59 GMT -5
I never knew people who really cared about them and read them. I knew people who bought them in hopes they be worth something. The gimmicks may have run people off. Defiant1 What gimmicks? Some of the issues had alternate covers but that seems EXTREMELY mild compared to every other company at the time. One issue Malibu did had a hole through the cover. That alone was enough to make me shake my head. |
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Post by Brother J on Jun 30, 2005 5:24:11 GMT -5
One of the gimmicks the Protectors had was multiple covers for each issue, a direct cover and a "newsstand" cover, but I think you could find both at your local comic shop. Also, the direct edition of Protectors #1 had one of those paper overlays on the cover, which were kind of a gimmick at the time (examples are the Death of Superman issues of Justice League and Batman #497 where Bane breaks Batman's back)
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Post by toddluck on Jun 30, 2005 8:24:51 GMT -5
Like I said very mild gimmicks for the time.
The reason that these books not talked about online as much as other dead universes from the 90's is this: they had no real big, extablished talent on their line. The superhero lines that where able to snag the few big talents that hadn't gone off to make their fortune doing creator-owned/self-published stuff where the most successful companies. They got the most continious attention and the most sales.
Hence why people online are still talking about Valiant, Defiant, Ultraverse, etc. Of course their are a few exceptions to the rule. Milestone being a sad one. Maybe their sales weren't as good?
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Post by toddluck on Jun 30, 2005 8:25:27 GMT -5
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Post by Defiant1 on Jun 30, 2005 16:38:07 GMT -5
Todd, If you or anyone want to post a list to the general comics section, I'm willing to make a checklist tp post on a web site. . I don't want a board full of endless rambling about Malibu, but I will make a checklist comparable to the others. The same stand true for Tekno, Comics Greatest World, Cross Gen etc. The lists are very low priority for me, but I like cold hard data. Defiant1 |
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Post by toddluck on Jun 30, 2005 21:48:24 GMT -5
Todd, If you or anyone want to post a list to the general comics section, I'm willing to make a checklist tp post on a web site. . I don't want a board full of endless rambling about Malibu, but I will make a checklist comparable to the others. The same stand true for Tekno, Comics Greatest World, Cross Gen etc. The lists are very low priority for me, but I like cold hard data. Defiant1 I just posted it for the heck of it while I was talking about the subject. Basically I just took some info I got from some quick searches I did while answering someone's Protectors questions on another board and added a little information I've learned since and put it all in one post. I have no way of knowing how complete the list is. I was basically compiling it for my own quick reference and just in case anyone who actually cared about the comics stumbled on this post (you never know  ). I really wouldn't bother making a check list on this just for my sake (honestly I think I'm an audience of one on these titles  I don't understand what you said about this board getting full of endless rambling on Malibu. I hope I didn't offend you. There's one thread on the Protectors, which I suspect will be deader than disco in a few days. That's about it (from me at least). BTW earlier you mentioned Malibu's Adventure and Eternity lines. What are those? I found a mention of the later in one of my issues but it didn't say what it was. |
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Post by Defiant1 on Jun 30, 2005 22:51:44 GMT -5
Todd, If you or anyone want to post a list to the general comics section, I'm willing to make a checklist tp post on a web site. . I don't want a board full of endless rambling about Malibu, but I will make a checklist comparable to the others. The same stand true for Tekno, Comics Greatest World, Cross Gen etc. The lists are very low priority for me, but I like cold hard data. Defiant1 I just posted it for the heck of it while I was talking about the subject. Basically I just took some info I got from some quick searches I did while answering someone's Protectors questions on another board and added a little information I've learned since and put it all in one post. I have no way of knowing how complete the list is. I was basically compiling it for my own quick reference and just in case anyone who actually cared about the comics stumbled on this post (you never know ). I really wouldn't bother making a check list on this just for my sake (honestly I think I'm an audience of one on these titles I don't understand what you said about this board getting full of endless rambling on Malibu. I hope I didn't offend you. There's one thread on the Protectors, which I suspect will be deader than disco in a few days. That's about it (from me at least). BTW earlier you mentioned Malibu's Adventure and Eternity lines. What are those? I found a mention of the later in one of my issues but it didn't say what it was. I'm not offended, but I don't want to host a Malibu messageboard. I won't host Malibu themed board. Malibu is the antithesis of what I like about comics. I feel they drowned the market with junk and made it more difficult for comics I liked to compete. I do think somebody should consider starting their own board. I've tried to coax Depluto into that... but he's not accepting the idea. As far as the other imprints go, Malibu used to have other names. I'm about ten times more interested in the pre-Malibu history than I am the Ultraverse or the Protectors. That would include the Men In Black series for novelty value (as opposed to entertainment value). Mile High Lists these, but I know there has to be more.... www.milehighcomics.com/comicindex/Publisher-Eternity-Comics--World-Imperial--ETE.htmland to prove it, here is a listing that isn't cross-referenced.. www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=list&title=90015447287&snumber=1and some say "Malibu" and "Don't Use".. www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=list&title=90008687268&snumber=1Men in Black was put out under the Aircel Imprint evidently... www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=list&title=52961851714&snumber=1I have some of them. Here is an adult book that shows the logo... www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=enlarge&issue=15327860224%201I think they used to make a lot of really bad porn comics with notable talent like Jim Balent & other names you'd recognize. I don't consider any of their product to be good, but I would like to know more about some of them to see if there were any gems. Defiant1 |
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). I really wouldn't bother making a check list on this just for my sake (honestly I think I'm an audience of one on these titles 