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Post by Defiant1 on Jul 31, 2009 20:09:45 GMT -5
Classic Media has a lot of characters they can license to Dark Horse. Right around the time Jim Shooter was ousted from Valiant, there were hints that Valiant was going to license another character from Western who owned the rights at the time. Some of those hints made it sound like they wanted to use Dr. Spektor. Since I had a complete set of Valiant at the time, I started shopping for the next possible big thing. I picked up a few... yeah, just a few... issues of Dr. Spektor. I thought the art could've been better, but it held it's own. I was actually hyped up because I thought Dr. Spektor would be a good crossover character with Shadowman. Not sure where this comic fits in with the chronology of the character. Here is... Spine-Tingling Tales #1  |
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Post by Defiant1 on Jul 31, 2009 20:16:13 GMT -5
Here is a Gold Key Solar crossover: Doctor Spektor #14  Defiant1 |
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Post by Defiant1 on Jul 31, 2009 20:20:38 GMT -5
Here is my Doctor Spektor #1  |
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Post by magnusr on Aug 1, 2009 2:24:57 GMT -5
They did create a new character with some inspiration from Dr Spektor, but also significant differences (Dr Mirage).
/Magnus
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Post by Defiant1 on Aug 1, 2009 6:20:07 GMT -5
They did create a new character with some inspiration from Dr Spektor, but also significant differences (Dr Mirage). /Magnus Yes. I'm aware of that, but I fail to see how Dr. Mirage was inspired by anything but food poisoning. It made me want to barf and I thought it was some never ending S#!.... nevermind. Defiant1 |
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Post by Brother J on Aug 1, 2009 11:42:33 GMT -5
They did create a new character with some inspiration from Dr Spektor, but also significant differences (Dr Mirage). /Magnus Yes. I'm aware of that, but I fail to see how Dr. Mirage was inspired by anything but food poisoning. It made me want to barf and I thought it was some never ending S#!.... nevermind. Defiant1  I liked Dr. Mirage... |
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Post by Defiant1 on Aug 1, 2009 16:47:46 GMT -5
Sorry. Not a fan of Chang's art. That alone was enough to make me hate it.  The ski suit was equally enough to make me roll my eyes. I'd already given up on Valiant by that time. I think I had bought maybe the first issue and that was it. I would've read it and all I remember was thinking it was horrible. |
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Post by Defiant1 on Aug 1, 2009 16:49:35 GMT -5
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Post by superggraphics on Aug 1, 2009 18:35:51 GMT -5
Great Post Defiant1! The writer on my comic book (Richard J Arndt) has some great bibliographies posted over there as well and they all are sticklers for accuracy. I know that they'll appreciate you posting the link.
George E Warner
superggraphics
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Post by Brother J on Aug 1, 2009 20:48:31 GMT -5
Sorry. Not a fan of Chang's art. That alone was enough to make me hate it. The ski suit was equally enough to make me roll my eyes. I'd already given up on Valiant by that time. I think I had bought maybe the first issue and that was it. I would've read it and all I remember was thinking it was horrible. Yeah, the permanent ski suit was kind of dopey, obviously just a reason to have him in something that looked like a superhero costume. I like Bernard Chang's Valiant-era work and I thought the writing was pretty good, I liked the romance angle of the book. |
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Post by Defiant1 on Aug 1, 2009 23:29:53 GMT -5
Great Post Defiant1! The writer on my comic book (Richard J Arndt) has some great bibliographies posted over there as well and they all are sticklers for accuracy. I know that they'll appreciate you posting the link. George E Warner superggraphics So you know him? Just posting an odd link I encountered! Defiant1 |
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Post by magnusr on Aug 2, 2009 2:18:51 GMT -5
Real nice list. I like the added comments as well. I'll email him the few things I know of, that he missed (except for the TPBs that he's deliberately not listing and magazines that I don't keep track of).
Can be noted for the unpublished Magnus 48 that a child book treatment was also suggested later.
Can be noted that a treatment was proposed by a number of creators, but never accepted.
TV Tornado 83 (The Immortal One, part 1, enter Sigma)
TV Tornado 84 (The Immortal One, part 2, The Rebel Riot-Robs)
TV Tornado 85 (The Immortal One, part 3, The Fiery Furnace)
TV Tornado 86 (The Immortal One, part 4, Close Call)
TV Tornado 87 (The Immortal One, part 5, The Battle, also stars on the cover)
TV Tornado 88 (The Immortal One, part 6, Showdown)
iBooks' Magnus
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Post by superggraphics on Aug 2, 2009 9:31:04 GMT -5
Not the writer of the Magnus piece. The writer of my comic book project (The Human Gargoyles) Richard J Arndt, who has quite a few bibliographies posted there as well. Check them out, all of the sites bibliographies are well researched, and I believe a good, enjoyable, fascinating read as well. Link to the main page is posted below. www.enjolrasworld.com/George E Warner superggraphics |
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Post by Defiant1 on Aug 2, 2009 10:32:13 GMT -5
I was compiling Bibliographies for all the Defiant creators, but I ran out of steam with it.
Defiant1
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Post by Defiant1 on Aug 2, 2009 23:05:53 GMT -5
SG sent me this which is pretty cool.Doctor Spektor Gold Key Comics Checklist
Mystery Comics Digest (Boris Karloff Tales Of Mystery) # 5 (1973)
1st Appearance
The Occult Files Of Doctor Spektor #'s 1-25 (1973-1982)
25 issues total (# 25 reprints # 1 with line art cover under Gold Key/Whitman Comics imprint).
Golden Comics Digest # 33 (1974)
(line art cover)
Dan Curtis Giveaways # 7 (1974)
(line art cover)
Spine Tingling Tales #'s 1-4 (1975-1976)
4 issues total
Gold Key Spotlight # 8 (1977)
All issues feature fully painted covers unless otherwise noted.
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Post by Defiant1 on Aug 8, 2009 13:00:39 GMT -5
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Post by Defiant1 on Aug 8, 2009 22:19:12 GMT -5
Added a scan for #25. Thanks to SG for the scan donation! |
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Post by Defiant1 on Aug 9, 2009 0:26:05 GMT -5
Scans for all 25 issues of the main series posted.
Thanks to SG!
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Post by Defiant1 on Aug 9, 2009 0:37:07 GMT -5
Can you imagine if Doctor Spektor was chasing down Dark Dominion monsters? Ha!
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Post by Defiant1 on Aug 9, 2009 6:58:58 GMT -5
Scans posted for Spine Tingling Tales! The Dr Spektor cover gallery is complete!
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Post by VaultKeeper on Aug 9, 2009 8:00:36 GMT -5
Added a scan for #25. Thanks to SG for the scan donation! Has he decided not to post here? |
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Post by Defiant1 on Aug 9, 2009 8:17:26 GMT -5
Added a scan for #25. Thanks to SG for the scan donation! Has he decided not to post here? Pretty much. He doesn't want to argue and your posts pretty much gave him no option except to be the whipping post or engage in arguments. I've left more than a few boards for the same reason. Defiant1 |
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Post by VaultKeeper on Aug 9, 2009 10:06:15 GMT -5
Has he decided not to post here? Pretty much. He doesn't want to argue and your posts pretty much gave him no option except to be the whipping post or engage in arguments. I've left more than a few boards for the same reason. Defiant1 What a bunch of BS. First off, he shouldn't have quoted me in a negative way from VCS to begin with. It was rude and immature. My post to him here simply said that if you want to get along with me, stop the negativity. Where's the problem with that? |
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Post by Defiant1 on Aug 9, 2009 10:44:29 GMT -5
I never asked you to stop, but it takes two for it to continue. In a sense you are simply saying the same thing he said on VCS about Steverino. I don't have a problem with negativity if it's honest and not intentionally meant to degrade someone maliciously. Being negative is an opinion and I feel that too much stuff is candy coated unnecessarily. So in some regards, I disagree with both of you, but I respect the fact that you are both coming forth with an honest opinion. In most disagreements, the complete truth never sits with one person or another, it usually rests somewhere in the middle. As an admin, the ideal situation I'd prefer to see is that you both agree to disagree, be willing to state your opinions honestly and with reasonable restraint. I know SG feels vindicated in the words that offended you. He was pretty much stating that people need to get over this hope that Jim Shooter will involve the VEI characters. After all, this revamp hinges on Jim Shooter. Perhaps SG was stating this opinion because he already knew what was on Jim's mind through his professional contacts? Regardless, Jim has pretty much stated that he will not work for VEI, so in a way, SG is vindicated in my opinion. That's not saying you are wrong for feeling differently, just that your hopes are not evidently reflected in what Jim plans to do. Regardless, you are both welcome to post here and say what's on your mind. If however one or both elects not to post here, I respect that decision too. I guess it could be said that you won the flame war. He stopped with the negativity. When Jim was at odds with Layton, a quote of wisdom always came to mind. It is: " In the day of prosperity be joyful, But in the day of adversity consider: Surely God has appointed the one as well as the other, So that man can find out nothing that will come after him. " In a strange way, I think that is saying that if you defeat or remove an adversary you may be getting rid of someone who can actually help you in whatever cause or ambition you have. There is no guarantee things will go the way your will wants it to go. Ultimately, it's better for two people to work together for a common good. Two people that respect each other's opinions also trust that negative criticism is warranted and are willing to look at themselves with more scrutiny rather than just blaming the other person. Also, you are not the only person who felt their opinions were singled out. In a strange way, several people felt that his words were targeted at them specifically and evidence seems to indicate otherwise from my point of view. I think his frustration was more general in nature than you took it. I won't repeat the personal criticisms he took at me, but we discussed it by email and I feel that we both came to a consensus about the whole thing. And I know it may conflict with all evidence, but even I'm not perfect.  Defiant1 |
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Post by VaultKeeper on Aug 9, 2009 13:23:47 GMT -5
He said in a PM to me at VCS that I gave him a beatdown by disagreeing with him. I don't care if he posts here or not.
My speculation of a Dark Horse/Valiant characters crossover is just as vindicated as his opinion, when you consider that Dino isn't going to be able to hold onto these characters for much longer. IMO, VEI's plan has already failed, and in short time, the properties will be up for sale again. Here is where DH comes in.
See my point? It's not impossible.
The same can be said about the revival of both Defiant and Broadway characters as well.
What I don't understand is that George was all about completing Unity 2000, etc., then has a PMS attack over art critcism, and ALL OF A SUDDEN everything Valiant is an old waste of time. That, my friend, is called suffering from a psychosis. And I'm surprised that out of respect to Ryan that a PM wasn't sent to him for derailing the thread with provocative negativity. That is, unless that was the whole purpose to begin with.
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Post by thebluescout on Aug 9, 2009 14:22:57 GMT -5
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Post by thebluescout on Aug 9, 2009 14:35:13 GMT -5
Dino isn't going to be able to hold onto these characters for much longer. With all respect, I'm not sure this is a fact, unless you know something I don't. What's to keep him from holding onto the Valiant properties he owns for years, especially if the Harbinger movie or some other licensing agreement pans out and gives him some staying power and operating capital? Perhaps he wants to hold onto them for his own reasons. I don't think it's a foregone conclusion Dino can't hold onto them much longer. It may play out that way, that he sells soon, who knows? |
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Post by Defiant1 on Aug 9, 2009 15:19:35 GMT -5
He said in a PM to me at VCS that I gave him a beatdown by disagreeing with him. I don't care if he posts here or not. My speculation of a Dark Horse/Valiant characters crossover is just as vindicated as his opinion, when you consider that Dino isn't going to be able to hold onto these characters for much longer. IMO, VEI's plan has already failed, and in short time, the properties will be up for sale again. Here is where DH comes in. See my point? It's not impossible. The same can be said about the revival of both Defiant and Broadway characters as well. What I don't understand is that George was all about completing Unity 2000, etc., then has a PMS attack over art critcism, and ALL OF A SUDDEN everything Valiant is an old waste of time. That, my friend, is called suffering from a psychosis. And I'm surprised that out of respect to Ryan that a PM wasn't sent to him for derailing the thread with provocative negativity. That is, unless that was the whole purpose to begin with. Just keep in mind that I care whether he is willing to post here or not and I do not share your opinion on this. You won the flame war. Most flame wars are not won so easily. Defiant1 |
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Post by VaultKeeper on Aug 9, 2009 15:26:30 GMT -5
He said in a PM to me at VCS that I gave him a beatdown by disagreeing with him. I don't care if he posts here or not. My speculation of a Dark Horse/Valiant characters crossover is just as vindicated as his opinion, when you consider that Dino isn't going to be able to hold onto these characters for much longer. IMO, VEI's plan has already failed, and in short time, the properties will be up for sale again. Here is where DH comes in. See my point? It's not impossible. The same can be said about the revival of both Defiant and Broadway characters as well. What I don't understand is that George was all about completing Unity 2000, etc., then has a PMS attack over art critcism, and ALL OF A SUDDEN everything Valiant is an old waste of time. That, my friend, is called suffering from a psychosis. And I'm surprised that out of respect to Ryan that a PM wasn't sent to him for derailing the thread with provocative negativity. That is, unless that was the whole purpose to begin with. Just keep in mind that I care whether he is willing to post here or not and I do not share your opinion on this. You won the flame war. Most flame wars are not won so easily. Defiant1 IMO, I did nothing to piss him off. I did not flame him, OR insult his opinions here. Sorry you like the guy so much that you can't see it for yourself. Whatever. |
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Post by Defiant1 on Aug 9, 2009 15:34:47 GMT -5
Dino isn't going to be able to hold onto these characters for much longer. With all respect, I'm not sure this is a fact, unless you know something I don't. What's to keep him from holding onto the Valiant properties he owns for years, especially if the Harbinger movie or some other licensing agreement pans out and gives him some staying power and operating capital? Perhaps he wants to hold onto them for his own reasons. I don't think it's a foregone conclusion Dino can't hold onto them much longer. It may play out that way, that he sells soon, who knows? At this stage, he can't afford sell them. They won't sell for what he paid. For me, a revival requires Jim Shooter's involvement and I think Jim holds a lot of animosity towards anything that Layton changed after he left. We already saw Jim criticize the changes Ostrander implemented on Magnus after he left. Not directly of course, but it was still a criticism. This is my opinion, but I'm betting Jim has no interest in trying to write explanations for everything Layton & company did over the years. That would be like coming back to a vandalized home and trying to justify what the criminals did to your neighbors. Defiant1 |
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